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Thursday, November 16, 2006

Mr K Matshazi joins debate!

From Mr Kuthula Matshazi [kuthulamatshazi@yahoo.co.uk]

MDC had tried to be a national movement but, you realise that the ideological disconnect always gets in the way. Therefore the concept of a national movement (which I suppose is comprised of different groups with different agendas) is bound to be idealistic. All things being equal ( sharing a common agenda, etc) that would be great, but at the same time it sounds like another party state. I do not think that the one party state as a principle is bad. It could work if better managed...not that we need it now. If we are ever to have a one party state we need to have efficient checks and balances. This is only idealistic as well. It cannot work. If liberal democratic arangements are strained and flawed, I shudder to think what would be the case with a one party state or a national movement.

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Editorial.........

With all due respect, man was given a mind with which to rationalise his situation. Man assesses all his options and ends up making up his/her mind on the course that will be most appropriate in any given situation. The Zimbabwean situation has the following options (as I see them.)

>>>1. All the Political Parties can sit down and look at all their problems as one big family and chart the way forward and then present their common vision to the rest of the world. This is most ideal (if it were possible!)

>>>2. ZANU-PF and the Opposition Parties can continue with their present stance of preparing for the 2008 Elections. The missing link here is an assurance that those Elections can ever be "free and fair". There is no chance in Hell that Mugabe and ZANU-PF can ever allow any Elections at any time to be "free and fair!" Don't be misled by Mbeki and the so-called SADC!

>>>3. The third and most logical option in the present circumstances is for all the Democratic Forces to wage a very legitimate armed struggle!

This third option is the only way out to rescue the suffering people (unless someone has another viewpoint.) Mugabe and ZANU-PF must never be given "a lifeline" of any kind! If Mugabe is allowed "the last laugh", then there will be more bloodshed!

PLEASE BE ADEQUATELY WARNED!

Rev M S Hove mufarostig@yahoo.co.uk Cell: 0791463039 RSA.

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>>>THE ATTEMPTED MURDER OF THE "ZIMONLINE" EDITOR: REV HOVE'S STATEMENT!<<<

May I join all peace-loving people in condemning the attempt on Able Mutsakani's life!

All must be done to bring the culprits to book. All must be done to investigate if there was a more sinister motive to that very evil act.

We Zimbabweans are not in South Africa due to our liking. We would like to be at home to re-construct our country in peace!

I wish our brother a very speedy recovery so he can continue the noble effort of highlighting the evils of Mugabe and ZANU-PF.

Rev M S Hove, ZIMFINALPUSH!

LINK 1 : LINK2 : LINK 3 : LINK 4

>>>>>>>>REV M S HOVE'S ULTIMATUM TO ZANU-PF ACTIVITIES: LINK BELOW!!!!<<<<<

@#$@#$ WHEN "PRESIDENT" LUCAS MANGOPE WEPT!!! @#$%*

The S A Negotiating Team sent Mr Maharaj (representing the ANC) and Mr Pik Botha (representing the outgoing Apartheid Regime) to inform the "President" of the Bantustan of Bophuthatswana that it was all over!

It was in the middle of the night when their Helicopter landed at the Bophuthatswana "State House." A lot had happened in the "State" of Bophuthatswana and Mr Mangope was trying to "consolidate" his power against the "unruly" elements.

The long and the short of it is that the man (who was in his late 70s) wept when Mr Pik Botha informed him that "MR PRESIDENT" ITS ALL OVER! WE CREATED YOU AND NOW I HAVE BEEN SENT TO INFORM YOU THAT THE PICNIC IS OVER!"

Who will see our RGM to inform him......CDE "PRESIDENT" ITS ALL OVER????

It would be very irresponsible for me to give the Zimbabweans any false hopes......
Having said that, I'm rather encouraged by the news that is coming from the talks. Yes, there is a heavy black-out, but I understand:

1. Mr Mbeki is very serious about the progress of the talks and the fact that they must succeed without fail.

2. There are no "sacred cows", contrary to popular belief
and

3. All involved seem aware of the gravity of the situation and how it can degenerate into an uncontrollable inferno if there is no progress!

I, however, urge all patriots to consider ways of getting out out of this hole and even prepare to engage in any serious activities in case these talks break-down!

M S Hove (Rev.)

I KNOW IT IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT A LOT OF ACTIVISTS ARE LOSING THEIR SANITY ETC. DUE TO THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING!

LINK!!!!

THAT'S WHY I SAY ...."NO LETS NOT WAIT FOR ELECTIONS! LETS GET

A WAY OF LIBERATING THE PEOPLE THIS YEAR!

WE NEED BRAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE PREPARED TO DIE FOR THEIR COUNTRY!

TO HELL WITH THESE TREACHEROUS MBEKI THINGS!
MBEKI HAS ENOUGH PROBLEMS

AND SOUTH AFRICA IS ACTUALLY ON "AUTO-PILOT" AS WE SPEAK!!!!!
WAKE UP VANHU VEZIMBABWE!

PREPARE TO DIE FOR YOUR COUNTRY!

RADICAL SOLDIER!

FELLOW ZIMBABWEANS PLEASE HELP ME!!

I do not understand what is going on at the moment.
I need assistance.

Firstly there is no Statement of Agreed Facts so The RSA President can at least comment

on the conduct and the legitimacy or otherwise of the previous Elections BEFORE

preparing for the new ones!
Secondly, what will Elections really prove when they are done next year?

That the people want ZANU-PF or the MDC to lead them?

But we all know that there is polarization whereby the mainly urban vote ANTI-ZANU-PF

and the rural mainly PRO-ZANU-PF (and there being a lot of INTIMIDATION in the rural areas!)

So what then?

Suppose the MDC wins the majority of the votes, what of the loyalty of the Armed Forces.....

have they reversed their previous Statement?

Who (as an External Force) will make sure there will be no strange activities by the Armed Forces?

Thirdly, in the unlikely event that that ZANU-PF wins a "free and fair" Election (I know its impossible)

but if it happens will the country then get back into the International fold?

Last but not least......

ALL OF YOU WHO ARE WAITING FOR 2008.... DO YOU KNOW THE ACUTENESS

OF THE SUFFERING OF THE PEOPLE AT THE MOMENT???????

DO YOU REALLY KNOW???? MY QUESTION THEREFORE IS: WHAT EXACTLY IS HAPPENING???
WHO REALLY CARES ABOUT THE COMMON MAN???
Rev Mufaro Stig Hove.

A COMMENT ON MR MGUNI'S ARTICLE!

MR MGUNI WROTE A VERY WELL-RESEARCHED ARTICLE WHICH I

RECOMMEND THAT ALL SERIOUS ZIMBABWEANS ACROSS THE POLITICAL DIVIDE

SHOULD READ....

LINK!

NOW HERE IS THE FIRST COMMENT:

Yes Mguni I have read your article and I have this to advise you as an ambitious politician.

-Do you know the odds that Morgan and co operate against when you just say they have failed.

Do you know that there is noone who has challenged Mugabe to the extent of what Tsvangirai did.

Tekere and Nkomo, Sithole and many others did nothing better.

Ask your colleagues in the Mutambara faction that, they thought they could do better now they are stuck.

The can't go past 1000 votes (Its a fact).

They have all the campaign tools they need, noone is holding them-If you doubt this,

go ahead and form your party, you will be one amoung numerous, UPP, etc.-

Don't say Morgan must retire because he was recently elected at the congress by his party

to lead the party for the next five years.

Don't try to hijack his party, FORM YOUR OWN!!-

If you want him to go, why didn't you come to the congress and try to campaign.-

It is clear at this stage that he is the most priced asset that the opposition have.-

Wish you good luck malume.

Mr Robert Mugabe went to town speaking various foul things about the tragedy
that sorrounded the great, young man, Mr Learnmore Jongwe!
Some of us just wept and could not hit back!
Mr Robert Mugabe is the last person that should have spoken about Mr Learnmore Jongwe!
The most evil person under the sun, that Robert Mugabe / Matibili!
To Bro Learnmore I say, "I'm really and sincerely sorry young man!
I, personally identify with you!
I wish I was there then to share your feelings, emotions etc!

Then you fell into the hands of wicked men mhondi vana Robert Mugabe!

Self-professed professors of violence!

Men who kill others like they kill flies!

You inter-acted with hypocrites like Cde Thabo Mbeki
(LINK),
Robert Mugabe

and Tobaiwa Mudede (whom you correctly described as a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!)

Bro Learnmore, I have yet to release you from my heart!

I have a lump in my throat about your going!

I will write a few things which mainly will be pieces of advice to spouces of POLITICIANS!

No.....YOU ARE NOT GONE!

Some of us have not yet fully released you!

YES....AS THEY SAID AT YOUR FUNERAL.......

HEROES LIE IN OUR HEARTS!

MANY AT THE SO-CALLED "NATIONAL HEROES ACRE"

WILL BE EXHUMED WHEN THE TIMES COMES!

Yes....You are not visible among us!

Your courage will forever inspire us!

I'm very sorry my dear Brother LEARNMORE, true son of the soil,....

NOT THE BLOODY ROBERT MATIBILI!"

REV Mufaro Stig Hove....THE RADICAL SOLDIER!

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Thursday, November 16, 2006

Mr K Matshazi joins debate!

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